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Ethernet Switch Market: Who's Winning?

An Infonetics survey on companies' spending plans and vendor perceptions shows Cisco and HP leading the pack, with Huawei making some inroads into the US Ethernet switch market.

A recent survey of Ethernet switch buyers by Infonetics Research had some interesting findings. Though Cisco is holding on to its dominant market position, HP is making strides, and Huawei is beginning to make some headway among Ethernet switch buyers in the US, the study showed.

HP earned a second-place showing among the 157 North American organizations that Infonetics surveyed. The study asked buyers about their campus and datacenter Ethernet switch deployment plans, purchases, and views of vendors.

HP is driving demand by updating its portfolio and taking a thought leadership position on software-defined networking, Matthias Machowinski, directing analyst for enterprise networks and video at Infonetics, told us in an email interview. As a whole, the company is on a turnaround course.

We asked some of our regular contributors to weigh in on the survey and who they see as leaders in the Ethernet switch market.

Ethan Banks, a senior network architect and host of the Packet Pushers podcast, said he can't address HP's share, but he's seeing the company leverage its server and storage customer relationships in the switch market. "They can say, 'You've got our servers. What do you think about our networking products?' It's not an unrealistic story for them to tell. You find out that HP has a whole range of switches."

It's hard to say how much HP's SDN efforts are driving sales, but they are clearly a big part of the company's marketing, Banks said. HP has said it has the most switches that support OpenFlow, and it has marketed a top-to-bottom SDN solution.

Tom Hollingsworth of Gestalt IT said in an email interview that Cisco remains firmly entrenched as the market leader in switching because of port count. "It will be tough to displace them as long as they keep rolling out updates to their existing product lines."

Banks said Cisco has continued to diversify its Catalyst and Nexus product lines to meet more specific customer interests. "Cisco is filling every nook and cranny in the switch niche."

Hollingsworth surmised that HP's gains are coming from end-of-life replacements of campus switches. "I think cost is winning out over additional feature sets like OpenFlow support. HP will likely gain a bit more ground in the campus unless Cisco drives down its prices to squeeze HP out or another campus vendor such as Extreme or Brocade decides to move resources to that arena at the expense of the datacenter lines."

Huawei breaking in
As for Huawei, the Infonetics survey showed that it's starting to show up on buyers' radars, despite being slowed by what the firm described as protectionism in the US market.

The Chinese networking and telecommunications equipment company had battled US government allegations that backdoors may have been built into the company's products to facilitate Chinese espionage. However, recent reports -- based on documents leaked by Edward Snowden -- allege that the NSA broke into Huawei servers, stole sensitive documents, and spied on the company's executives.

Banks said the reports could be changing some people's perceptions of Huawei, which he described as having a solid line of switching products. The line includes the CloudEngine datacenter switch series, which he said has a lot of rich features.

But Hollingsworth said Huawei is "still too hot to make a real impact in the US market." The NSA revelations hurt the government's position on backdoors and wiretapping, but they didn't clarify the situation with Huawei.

"For many network admins, if all your switch vendors are spying on you on behalf of their respective governments, they think 'better the devil you know.' Huawei should bide its time and pull in a couple of big reference customers in order to allay fears of compromised firmware," he said. "The smartest thing they can do for now is to keep their mouth shut until the NSA storm weakens."

A report in a German magazine late last year alleged that the NSA had developed hacking tools for creating backdoors in products from Cisco, Juniper, and other networking vendors.

Dell slips
When asked if the Infonetics survey indicated any vendors losing ground, Machowinski said Dell, but he didn't provide details.

Hollingsworth said Dell is "having a networking identity crisis." He noted that the company recently announced a new OS at Dell World, along with deals with Cumulus and Big Switch.

"Dell needs to find a horse and back it. Otherwise, it will be turned into a white-box hardware vendor that will need to compete with a very tight market," he said. "Selling on cost alone will only work if you are the lowest cost around. Value is where you will keep your customer base happy. Right now, that value is being provided by Cumulus and Big Switch, not Dell."

Marcia Savage is the managing editor for Network Computing, and has been covering technology for 15 years. She has written and edited for CRN and spent several years covering information security for SC Magazine and TechTarget. Marcia began her journalism career in daily ... View Full Bio

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MarciaNWC
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MarciaNWC,
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5/6/2014 | 3:27:34 PM
Re: Opportunities
Good point eheenan. Enterprises definitely want options. Any thoughts on what needs to happen in the white-box switch market for it to gain traction in the enterprise space?
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eheenan,
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5/3/2014 | 7:35:08 AM
Re: Opportunities
Interesting points by everyone. Huawei has been making a lot of noise in Japan of all places. If their smartphones start selling well in the US, it should have a big/positive impact on their US enterprise market share.

Many Fortune 2000 firms still have a high number of EOL switches in production, (even if they strongly deny it) which supports the idea of enterprises eventually becoming fans of white box switches.  They want options, whether it's a cheaper box or a longer/cheaper support contract.  I'd like to see how Cisco's services revenue tracks to the data in the report.

 

 
MarciaNWC
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MarciaNWC,
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5/1/2014 | 11:24:24 AM
Re: other views?
I think your memory is correct jgherbert. That was some lengthy legal dispute. Both companies were still taking shots at each other in 2012, after settling the original lawsuit, according to this report.
aditshar1
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aditshar1,
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5/1/2014 | 1:28:00 AM
Re: other views?
Moreover last year there was news saying that Huawei and ZTE banned from selling to US Govt, i am not sure when they lifted this ban or stand. Even after such allegation it is commendable job done by huawei in Ethernet switch market.

http://techonomy.com/2013/04/huawei-zte-banned-from-selling-to-u-s-government/
jgherbert
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jgherbert,
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4/30/2014 | 10:12:32 PM
Re: other views?
Yeah... not slightly ironic, isn't it?

The previous legal disputes between Cisco and Huawei (if I recall correctly for allegedly taking code, and for pretty much wholesale copying of CCO support documentation) leave a somewhat sour taste in the mouth, I suspect.
MarciaNWC
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MarciaNWC,
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4/30/2014 | 11:23:20 AM
Re: other views?
Thanks for providing that link aditshar1. It's pretty incredible to read what those U.S. lawmakers said in 2012, in light of the recent reports of NSA spying on Huawei.
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aditshar1,
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4/30/2014 | 3:16:05 AM
Re: other views?
Though Cisco is holding on to its dominant market position, HP is making strides, and Huawei is beginning to make some headway among Ethernet switch buyers in the US, the study showed.


Sounds like releif for Vendor like Huawei after US Govt stand in last couple of years against chinese market/ vendors.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/10/08/us-usa-china-huawei-zte-idUSBRE8960NH20121008
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jgherbert,
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4/29/2014 | 9:22:42 PM
Re: other views?
It's interesting that HP is number two, and my assumption would have to be that this includes all the switches that are bundled with / embedded within compute resource. Cisco chomps at both ends of the stick, selling more core infrastructure as well as bundling their switchports within the UCS solutions.

The surprise then, perhaps, is that Dell isn't also shooting up the list faster, on that basis.

 
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MarciaNWC,
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4/29/2014 | 3:48:02 PM
Re: Opportunities
Interesting report! Thanks for sending. With all the recent news, I think it's definitely worthwhile rerunning it. I'm up for a discussion!
Lorna Garey
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Lorna Garey,
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4/29/2014 | 3:36:57 PM
Re: Opportunities
We did a survey on Huawei about one year ago: http://reports.informationweek.com/abstract/6/10697/Data-Center/Can-Huawei-Succeed-in-the-U.S.?.html 

It was interesting; only 15% said flat out that Huawei is not a viable alternative for enterprise technology, but that was before the Feds banned its gear. I could see rerunning that poll with trending. Maybe we can discuss.
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