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Private Cloud Wars: OS Wars, The Sequel
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IanR009
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IanR009,
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9/30/2013 | 4:45:31 PM
re: Private Cloud Wars: OS Wars, The Sequel
The wars are in some senses similar but quite different in the details...most of the credible options are open source so no vendor is necessarily involved in the decision. OpenStack is a collection of related projects, heavily funded without great prospects of ROI as a reaction to AWS and Vmware's dominance in public and "private" cloud respectively. From what I have seen, no two Openstack clouds of any significant scale are similar. CloudStack is a single project (and therefore more consistent) that is AWS friendly yet agnostic and isn't burdened by the infighting/co-opitition seen in the OpenStack ecosystem presently. CloudStack tries to solve fewer problems with a more focused approach on time-to-value and long term reliability/supportability. Eucalyptus is open core therefore not fully open source and is focused on copying AWS services, which has a niche target demographic (but an interesting niche). Hard to tell what their future will bring as this strategy is highly dependent on what AWS does, and past decisions at Amazon tend not to favour partners like this. I think all projects will have success and grow, and which one is right for you will depend on your requirements and use cases.
Laurianne
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Laurianne,
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9/27/2013 | 4:52:06 PM
re: Private Cloud Wars: OS Wars, The Sequel
Here is an interesting retort to Alistair's napkin diagram: http://gregdekspeaks.wordpress...
cbabcock
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cbabcock,
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9/26/2013 | 5:38:39 PM
re: Private Cloud Wars: OS Wars, The Sequel
I think we are evolving toward many types of clouds based on similar commodity components and some shared standards.-- but good at different things. Google Compute Engine is different from Amazon Web Services, which is different from Microsoft Azure. They're all built with similar components but architected to do different things.In this sense, we're not just repeating the OS wars.
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KellyH562,
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9/26/2013 | 12:19:32 PM
re: Private Cloud Wars: OS Wars, The Sequel
I see what you're saying about the difficulties of putting these into categories. Unfortunately, I don't think CloudPlatform fits that well with the Apple analogy. While it's true that it's product, rather than project, focused & "just works," there are number of hardware vendors that would not agree with assessment that it's Citrix centric including folks like Cisco, ALU & SolidFire to name a few on the hardware side. On the software side, I've seen a huge spike in software integrations in the last 12 months. That's where the analogy also falls apart -it's not part of a closed ecosystem like Apple has created. If you had to peg an OS - I'd actually liken it Linux, and in particular, Red Hat. CloudPlatform is like RHEL. A number of folks use CentOS and Fedora - those line up closer to Apache CloudStack. Perhaps another analogy to explore is Android, but the Open Source side outside of Google, is VERY geek focused rather than IT focused so it's not a perfect analogy/comparison either..

Need to correct - CloudPlatform is not an Open Core model; that's Eucalyptus.
CloudPlatform is the commercially supported version of Apache CloudStack & includes best in breed VMware support. A majority of the enterprise customers I know of are running ESXi as their hypervisor of choice & they don't pay a dime more for that support. Granted, VMware support is not as interesting for SPs though a number do run VMware and are not VMware Service Providers (VSPPs.) The fact that the product focuses on two different unique workloads - the traditional, HA enabled enterprise workload as well as the AWS/OpenStack style workload is a huge differentiator. While enterprises talk about wanting to move to cloud, it will take a number of years. Supporting both the legacy & the new has been a critical concern that resonates well with enterprise buyers. It's part of the reason why there are a number of paying CloudPlatform customers.

Lastly, on the Open Source side, I know of a number of big names that use Apache CloudStack & do not have a commercial relationship with Citrix. It is growing and active community outside of the commercial side of the equation.
Laurianne
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Laurianne,
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9/24/2013 | 4:43:58 PM
re: Private Cloud Wars: OS Wars, The Sequel
Our cloud expert Charlie Babcock reported this week on PayPal's decision to embrace both OpenStack and VMware technology in its future data center plans. PayPal cited the vendor lock-in concern, among others. See : http://www.informationweek.com....
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Thomas Claburn,
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9/24/2013 | 4:14:53 AM
re: Private Cloud Wars: OS Wars, The Sequel
"...are we doomed to repeat the battles of the past?" Yes, unfortunately.
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vtompkins105,
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9/23/2013 | 5:33:07 PM
re: Private Cloud Wars: OS Wars, The Sequel
I notice a lingering effect of the wine since you confused Unix for GNU/Linux.
As for the question asked YES there will be fights like the OS wars of old.
It boils down to - My way is better because... In other words - Give me your money and you won't be sorry.


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